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53 Elizabeth II, A.D. 2004, Canada

Journals of the Senate

1st Session, 38th Parliament


Issue 18

Wednesday, November 24, 2004
1:30 p.m.

The Honourable Daniel Hays, Speaker


The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

Adams, Andreychuk, Angus, Atkins, Austin, Bacon, Baker, Banks, Bryden, Buchanan, Callbeck, Carstairs, Christensen, Cochrane, Cook, Cools, Corbin, Cordy, Day, De Bané, Di Nino, Doody, Downe, Eyton, Fairbairn, Finnerty, Fitzpatrick, Forrestall, Fraser, Furey, Gill, Grafstein, Gustafson, Harb, Hays, Hervieux-Payette, Joyal, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, Kirby, Lapointe, Lavigne, LeBreton, Léger, Losier-Cool, Maheu, Mahovlich, Meighen, Mercer, Merchant, Milne, Moore, Morin, Munson, Murray, Nolin, Oliver, Pearson, Pépin, Phalen, Plamondon, Poulin (Charette), Prud'homme, Ringuette, Rivest, Robichaud, Rompkey, St. Germain, Sibbeston, Smith, Sparrow, Spivak, Stollery, Stratton, Tkachuk, Trenholme Counsell, Watt

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

Adams, Andreychuk, Angus, Atkins, Austin, Bacon, Baker, Banks, Bryden, Buchanan, Callbeck, Carstairs, Christensen, Cochrane, *Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, Cordy, Day, De Bané, Di Nino, Doody, Downe, Eyton, Fairbairn, Finnerty, Fitzpatrick, Forrestall, Fraser, Furey, Gill, Grafstein, Gustafson, Harb, Hays, Hervieux-Payette, *Jaffer, Joyal, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, Kirby, Lapointe, Lavigne, LeBreton, Léger, Losier-Cool, *Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, Mahovlich, Meighen, Mercer, Merchant, Milne, Moore, Morin, Munson, Murray, Nolin, Oliver, Pearson, Pépin, Phalen, Plamondon, Poulin (Charette), Prud'homme, Ringuette, Rivest, Robichaud, Rompkey, St. Germain, Sibbeston, Smith, Sparrow, Spivak, Stollery, Stratton, Tkachuk, Trenholme Counsell, Watt

PRAYERS

SENATORS' STATEMENTS

Tributes

Tribute was paid to the Honourable Senator Morin, who will retire from the Senate on November 28, 2004.

Senators' Statements

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Presentation of Reports from Standing or Special Committees

The Honourable Senator Banks, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources, tabled its third report (first interim) entitled: The One-Tonne Challenge: Let's Get On With It!—Sessional Paper No. 1/38-311S.

The Honourable Senator Banks moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Corbin, that the report be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Trenholme Counsell presented the following:

Wednesday, November 24, 2004

The Standing Joint Committee on the Library of Parliament has the honour to present its

FIRST REPORT

Your Committee recommends that it be authorized to assist the Speaker of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Commons in directing and controlling the Library of Parliament, and that it be authorized to make recommendations to the Speaker of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Commons regarding the governance of the Library and the proper expenditure of moneys voted by Parliament for the purchase of books, maps or other articles to be deposited therein.

Your Committee recommends that its quorum be fixed at seven (7) members, provided that both Houses are represented, including a member from the opposition and a member from the government, whenever a vote, resolution or other decision is taken, and that the Joint Chairs be authorized to hold meetings to receive and publish evidence when a quorum is not present, provided that at least (4) members are present, including a member from the opposition and a member from the government.

Your Committee further recommends to the Senate that it be empowered to sit during sittings of the Senate.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No 1.) is tabled in the House of Commons.

Respectfully submitted,

MARILYN TRENHOLME COUNSELL

Joint Chair

The Honourable Senator Trenholme Counsell moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Ringuette, that the report be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

Bills

Orders No. 1 to 3 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

OTHER BUSINESS

Senate Public Bills

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Plamondon, seconded by the Honourable Senator Ringuette, for the second reading of Bill S-19, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (criminal interest rate).

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Stratton moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator LeBreton, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Orders No. 2 to 7 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Second reading of Bill S-16, An Act providing for the Crown's recognition of self-governing First Nations of Canada.

The Honourable Senator St. Germain, P.C, moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator LeBreton, that the bill be read the second time.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Losier-Cool, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Reports of Committees

Ordered, That Orders No. 4 and 5 be brought forward.

Consideration of the second report of the Standing Senate Committee on Human Rights (budget—study on the rights and freedoms of children—power to hire staff) presented in the Senate on November 18, 2004.

The Honourable Senator Andreychuk moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator LeBreton, that the report be adopted.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Consideration of the third report of the Standing Senate Committee on Human Rights (budgetstudy on human rights obligations—power to hire staff) presented in the Senate on November 18, 2004.

The Honourable Senator Andreychuk moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator LeBreton, that the report be adopted.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.


At 4 p.m., pursuant to the order adopted by the Senate on November 2, 2004, the Senate adjourned until 1:30 p.m. tomorrow.

REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 28(2):

Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 2004-2005 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 2004-2005 of the Old Port of Montréal Corporation Inc., pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4).—Sessional Paper No. 1/38-306.

Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 2004-2008 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 2004 of Marine Atlantic Inc., pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4).—Sessional Paper No. 1/ 38-307.

Report of the British Columbia Treaty Commission, together with the Auditors' Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2004, pursuant to the British Columbia Treaty Commission Act, S.C. 1995, c. 45, sbs. 21(3).—Sessional Paper No. 1/38-308.

Statutes of the Northwest Territories for May 2004, pursuant to the Northwest Territories Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. N-27, sbs. 21(1). —Sessional Paper No. 1/38-309.

Statutes of the Northwest Territories for July 2004, pursuant to the Northwest Territories Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. N-27, sbs. 21(1). —Sessional Paper No. 1/38-310.


Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 85(4)

Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence

The names of the Honourable Senators Lynch-Staunton and Meighen substituted for those of the Honourable Senators Nolin and Tkachuk (November 23).

Standing Committee on Rules, Procedures and the Rights of Parliament

The name of the Honourable Senator Chaput substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Corbin (November 23).


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